Comments on: SunRun Solar PPA Example http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/ The best source for nationwide solar power rebates, tax credits, and incentives Mon, 21 May 2012 20:32:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: bart zanden http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-32326 bart zanden Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:45:55 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-32326 Hi Fred, Great blog. I am having difficulty coming up with the figures, can you help me with that? regards, bart Hi Fred,

Great blog. I am having difficulty coming up with the figures, can you help me with that?

regards,

bart

]]> By: Ajan http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-32321 Ajan Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:19:14 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-32321 This 6.5% projection means that the current .21 kWh average rate for this customer will be $.56/kwh by the end of the 18 year contract. a 6.5% projection means that the current .21 kWh average rate will be 0.65 kwh by the end of the 18 years. formule:(0,21)*((1+0,065)^18) AM This 6.5% projection means that the current .21 kWh average rate for this customer will be $.56/kwh by the end of the 18 year contract.

a 6.5% projection means that the current .21 kWh average rate will be 0.65 kwh by the end of the 18 years.

formule:(0,21)*((1+0,065)^18)

AM

]]> By: bart http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-32151 bart Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:49:27 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-32151 I don't quite understand. Sunrun installs solar panels and I still need to pay the remaining 13% of the utility bill? Why not just install 100% solar panel and to the utility? I don’t quite understand. Sunrun installs solar panels and I still need to pay the remaining 13% of the utility bill?

Why not just install 100% solar panel and to the utility?

]]> By: Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred" http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-16675 Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred" Tue, 03 May 2011 20:01:54 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-16675 JIm, Because you don't owe a lot in taxes, yes, a solar PPA is a good for you. You also might consider a solar lease option (similar, but a fixed monthly payment) instead. Look into SolarCity.com, get a quote from them, and compare the two offers. Hope that helps. Solar Fred JIm,

Because you don’t owe a lot in taxes, yes, a solar PPA is a good for you. You also might consider a solar lease option (similar, but a fixed monthly payment) instead. Look into SolarCity.com, get a quote from them, and compare the two offers.

Hope that helps.

Solar Fred

]]> By: Jim http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-16663 Jim Tue, 03 May 2011 03:11:57 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-16663 I'm an Hawaii resident considering SunRun under a PPA. My situation is Social Security + some consulting work, but modest annual direct income, so the federal tax credit will take a few years to pay off if I were to buy my own system. I have available cash, so I'm looking at an option that pays SunRun $11K up front for the following scenario: Site Assumptions Utility: HELCO Current monthly HELCO bill: $236 Annual electricity usage: 7,150 kWh Your System SunRun Total Solar always includes 20 years of repairs, maintenance, insurance, and monitoring and a money-back performance guarantee Value of SunRun Services: $6,316 3.76 kW (DC) Conergy system Equipment value: $28,655 Year 1 estimated production: 5,219 kWh Electricity usage offset: 73% Electricity bill offset: 70% I am also installing solar water to bring the bill close to net $0. Since I can't realize (quickly) all of the solar tax credits and rebates, I am considering their offer of bringing my effective kwh rate down from the current 36.9 cents/kwh to 11.7 cents/kwh. If I were to buy the solar installation, I would eventually net out at ~$17,000 after all rebates and credits ($38.5K estimated installed cost. Does this scenario look like I am the ideal candidate for PPA, or am I missing something? I’m an Hawaii resident considering SunRun under a PPA. My situation is Social Security + some consulting work, but modest annual direct income, so the federal tax credit will take a few years to pay off if I were to buy my own system. I have available cash, so I’m looking at an option that pays SunRun $11K up front for the following scenario:

Site Assumptions
Utility: HELCO
Current monthly HELCO bill: $236
Annual electricity usage: 7,150 kWh
Your System
SunRun Total Solar always includes 20
years of repairs, maintenance,
insurance, and monitoring and a
money-back performance guarantee
Value of SunRun Services: $6,316
3.76 kW (DC) Conergy system
Equipment value: $28,655
Year 1 estimated production: 5,219
kWh
Electricity usage offset: 73%
Electricity bill offset: 70%

I am also installing solar water to bring the bill close to net $0.

Since I can’t realize (quickly) all of the solar tax credits and rebates, I am considering their offer of bringing my effective kwh rate down from the current 36.9 cents/kwh to 11.7 cents/kwh.

If I were to buy the solar installation, I would eventually net out at ~$17,000 after all rebates and credits ($38.5K estimated installed cost.

Does this scenario look like I am the ideal candidate for PPA, or am I missing something?

]]> By: James Goodfelllow http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-9243 James Goodfelllow Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:54:12 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-9243 I'm seriously looking at the Up front whole tab because I am getting immediate rebate and tax credit plus an additional 10% plus new breaker panel and want someone to monitor, maintain, and replace the inverter over time. I'm retired and over the coming years know I can't be in a position to manage those things. However, I have the following concerns; a) What if SunRun no longer gets the current incentives and decides to walk away from the business or worse fails finacially, Who will assume the responsibilities and how much effort is there to force compliance with the contract? SunRun is a 2007 company which is very young and the agent seller/installer has only been in the solar business two years, I know most new businesses have a 70 % fatality rate in new ventures like these and who knows when the tax incentive will dry up and blow many of them away. any Comments on the risk with SunRun? Jim I’m seriously looking at the Up front whole tab because I am getting immediate rebate and tax credit plus an additional 10% plus new breaker panel and want someone to monitor, maintain, and replace the inverter over time. I’m retired and over the coming years know I can’t be in a position to manage those things. However, I have the following concerns; a) What if SunRun no longer gets the current incentives and decides to walk away from the business or worse fails finacially, Who will assume the responsibilities and how much effort is there to force compliance with the contract? SunRun is a 2007 company which is very young and the agent seller/installer has only been in the solar business two years, I know most new businesses have a 70 % fatality rate in new ventures like these and who knows when the tax incentive will dry up and blow many of them away. any Comments on the risk with SunRun?
Jim

]]> By: Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred" http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-2643 Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred" Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:10:48 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-2643 Hey, Bob. There's little advantage to the pay up front option. If you do that, you might as well buy your system upfront yourself and buy a maintenance contract from an installer. The truth is that there's very little maintenance with a PV system. You'll have to replace the inverter(s) and that could cost 2 grand or less, but in 10 years, might even be less with competition and innovation. Panels have to be hosed or wiped down for dust every once in a while. Otherwise, no real worries, assuming you got a good install and your roof was in good shape at that time. The only advantage to the up front option is that they also front your 30% tax credit from the Federal government. But if you can pay that upfront cost yourself, then you'll probably take advantage of that credit in the first year. Hope that helps. Hey, Bob.

There’s little advantage to the pay up front option. If you do that, you might as well buy your system upfront yourself and buy a maintenance contract from an installer. The truth is that there’s very little maintenance with a PV system. You’ll have to replace the inverter(s) and that could cost 2 grand or less, but in 10 years, might even be less with competition and innovation. Panels have to be hosed or wiped down for dust every once in a while. Otherwise, no real worries, assuming you got a good install and your roof was in good shape at that time. The only advantage to the up front option is that they also front your 30% tax credit from the Federal government. But if you can pay that upfront cost yourself, then you’ll probably take advantage of that credit in the first year.

Hope that helps.

]]> By: Bob http://solarpowerrocks.com/sunrun/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/comment-page-1/#comment-2642 Bob Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:57:52 +0000 http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/sunrun-solar-ppa-example/#comment-2642 What about the option when you pay the whole "tab" upfront with Sun Run. I know you don't own the system, but you do not pay monthly to Sun Run and you get advantage of the maintenance and warranty repairs if needed. What about the option when you pay the whole “tab” upfront with Sun Run. I know you don’t own the system, but you do not pay monthly to Sun Run and you get advantage of the maintenance and warranty repairs if needed.

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