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	<title>Comments on: PGE is Feeding me Bullsh*t and Calling it Caviar</title>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=e98d1b07f34fccaf0e416fc76eff1753&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/1d8c592aa802701.png" alt="Smutty Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Smutty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way I can get PG&amp;E to pay for the excess power I produce from my system? I consume less then I produce and would like to see about getting a credit for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way I can get PG&amp;E to pay for the excess power I produce from my system? I consume less then I produce and would like to see about getting a credit for it.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=c378fb2b25953c64a351056c2739017d&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/cc3af2fff043684.png" alt="Paul Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim..What did the screen labeled 99 read? That is the instantaneous screen which gives the total net at the meter in Kwatts..Was it recieving or delivering during those 4 hours. If the meter is recieving from you, there will be a - sign in front of the instant read. If not, then the meter is geting energy delivered to you IE..you are using more than whats being produced. Your solor shows total delivered out from the inverter, but does not take into account what the house is using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim..What did the screen labeled 99 read? That is the instantaneous screen which gives the total net at the meter in Kwatts..Was it recieving or delivering during those 4 hours. If the meter is recieving from you, there will be a &#8211; sign in front of the instant read. If not, then the meter is geting energy delivered to you IE..you are using more than whats being produced. Your solor shows total delivered out from the inverter, but does not take into account what the house is using.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=87ea3ac34223dbf1f31220c9f673cef9&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/6e19cbea490dd28.png" alt="Jim Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a system for 14 months now and just discovered that the TOU bi-directional meter that PG&amp;E put on my house is NOT bi-directional i.e. during peak one weekday, I tracked the number on the meter.  For 4 hours, my solar put out to the net an average of 2.7Kw each hour (as indicated on the PG&amp;E meter itself), leading to over 10Kw total for that time period.  How much did the peak number on my meter change? Not one digit.  It stayed exactly on 50121 the entire 4 hours.  The fifth hour, when I started to consume more than I produced (as indicated on the PG&amp;E meter), it immediately went to 50122.  A PG&amp;E representative will be here next week to check it out, but is there any advice in the meantime?  I&#039;ve been sending electricity to PG&amp;E for over a year now with no credit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a system for 14 months now and just discovered that the TOU bi-directional meter that PG&amp;E put on my house is NOT bi-directional i.e. during peak one weekday, I tracked the number on the meter.  For 4 hours, my solar put out to the net an average of 2.7Kw each hour (as indicated on the PG&amp;E meter itself), leading to over 10Kw total for that time period.  How much did the peak number on my meter change? Not one digit.  It stayed exactly on 50121 the entire 4 hours.  The fifth hour, when I started to consume more than I produced (as indicated on the PG&amp;E meter), it immediately went to 50122.  A PG&amp;E representative will be here next week to check it out, but is there any advice in the meantime?  I&#8217;ve been sending electricity to PG&amp;E for over a year now with no credit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=c378fb2b25953c64a351056c2739017d&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/cc3af2fff043684.png" alt="Paul Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belay my last. I just found that E7 did have peak rates greatly reduced in the winter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belay my last. I just found that E7 did have peak rates greatly reduced in the winter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=c378fb2b25953c64a351056c2739017d&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/cc3af2fff043684.png" alt="Paul Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be mistaken, but the E7 was seasonal just like the E6 is. But with partial peak in the winter  and weekends in summer with E6, you are still producing 1.5 x over off peak. E7 went off peak completely from Oct (Nov?) to June, not to mention the weekends in summer were completly off peak on E7. Also, peak on E7 was noon to six. Then off all other times. On E6, you start generating at part peak from 10 to 1, then peak from 1 to 7. With longer days in summer, seems like E6 is a better deal for solar to me then E7 was. At least thats the way I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be mistaken, but the E7 was seasonal just like the E6 is. But with partial peak in the winter  and weekends in summer with E6, you are still producing 1.5 x over off peak. E7 went off peak completely from Oct (Nov?) to June, not to mention the weekends in summer were completly off peak on E7. Also, peak on E7 was noon to six. Then off all other times. On E6, you start generating at part peak from 10 to 1, then peak from 1 to 7. With longer days in summer, seems like E6 is a better deal for solar to me then E7 was. At least thats the way I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=02ea68a09e61c4a686f51c09136732d2&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/a2b84c2a3c28981.png" alt="Solar guy Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Solar guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to get together and reinstate the E7 rating!  We need to get organized and talk to Arnold!  The CPUC has not once responded to my repeated letters about this subject!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to get together and reinstate the E7 rating!  We need to get organized and talk to Arnold!  The CPUC has not once responded to my repeated letters about this subject!</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=02ea68a09e61c4a686f51c09136732d2&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/a2b84c2a3c28981.png" alt="Solar guy Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Solar guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this is obvious.  PG&amp;E loses much more money with the E-7 rating.  That is why they got rid of it.  Bill Brooks is spewing out at all of his classes and meetings that E-7 is worse than E-1.  I called him an idiot.  He spewed out his credentials.  He is obviously getting paid by PG&amp;E to spread the bullshit!  Bill Brooks... piss off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this is obvious.  PG&amp;E loses much more money with the E-7 rating.  That is why they got rid of it.  Bill Brooks is spewing out at all of his classes and meetings that E-7 is worse than E-1.  I called him an idiot.  He spewed out his credentials.  He is obviously getting paid by PG&amp;E to spread the bullshit!  Bill Brooks&#8230; piss off!</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=b34c3cb5285c62a8a9db6782b828140f&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/e380354cd39c467.png" alt="Mike Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I am recently up and running with my new 5 KW system(reserved my spot in late 07) and got an E6 meter.  I know, that sucks, but I am keeping fingers crossed on getting an E7 slot by June.  Nevertheless...can you summarize for me what my usage strategy should be for the winter on E6?  Seems to me there is no peak, and I should just avoid heavy use between 5-8 pm weekdays??  What rate am I being credited at when I&#039;ve been cranking out 25-30 Kw per day?  Thanks, U Rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I am recently up and running with my new 5 KW system(reserved my spot in late 07) and got an E6 meter.  I know, that sucks, but I am keeping fingers crossed on getting an E7 slot by June.  Nevertheless&#8230;can you summarize for me what my usage strategy should be for the winter on E6?  Seems to me there is no peak, and I should just avoid heavy use between 5-8 pm weekdays??  What rate am I being credited at when I&#8217;ve been cranking out 25-30 Kw per day?  Thanks, U Rock.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=b59003806c4ea332f48a4d7d2da6e2b7&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/554557ee2c7ef27.png" alt="Melinda Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Melinda</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know, PGE and PG&amp;E are 2 different companies.  Up here at PGE, solar customers on Time of Use still score big time on their bills!  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know, PGE and PG&amp;E are 2 different companies.  Up here at PGE, solar customers on Time of Use still score big time on their bills!  <img src='http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=614627b2fa9247e42568b08f9b8120d3&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/5f1895cdea395b6.png" alt="Dan Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing out the reality behind the E6 meter vs E7. I made sure I got an E7 meter with my solar installation. I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d have done it if I could only get an E6. Let&#039;s face it, PG&amp;E, while putting on a face of greenness, is still in business to make money. Nothing wrong with that at all. But pushing the E6 as more solar friendly is just untrue. I wish we could prevent the E7 from being phased out...

-dan
http://www.solar4sf.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out the reality behind the E6 meter vs E7. I made sure I got an E7 meter with my solar installation. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d have done it if I could only get an E6. Let&#8217;s face it, PG&amp;E, while putting on a face of greenness, is still in business to make money. Nothing wrong with that at all. But pushing the E6 as more solar friendly is just untrue. I wish we could prevent the E7 from being phased out&#8230;</p>
<p>-dan<br />
<a href="http://www.solar4sf.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.solar4sf.org</a></p>
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