So… Any idea on how long it will be before these are commonly available? Will they be integrated into the panels we buy from a particular manufacturer or added to each one by you the installer?
Nathaniel,
Micro-inverters are available currently through Enphase energy. The trick is getting installers up to speed on how to mount them and city permitting. In a recent conference we attended, the VP of Sales mentioned they’d have a newer model out in the next 2 to 3 months. While Enphase is the most well capitalized and has been the fastest to market, other manufacturers are in the fray and are watching closely.
As far as panel integration goes, it’s funny you ask as I was just talking to Dave about this 10 minutes ago. I thought it would be a good idea for Enphase to form a sort of joint venture with several panel manufacturers to make installation simpler and create a more compelling value proposition. However, they are proceeding with selling the modules separately.
Not to harp or be disgruntled because fundamentally it doesn’t bother personally me (as a mexican), but as someone who edits a lot of content for public release… You might want to refrain from using stereo typical “Mexican” names in the diamond mine… a little racist that all the help is Mexican and only one is skilled and even he is disgruntled and takes a lot of breaks… Try a John and a Bill maybe… Other than that I really like your blog and after I got sick of all the “Green hype” blogs I continue to read yours due to the facts and the genuine experience you portray… Keep up the good work. Cheers
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the posting and glad to hear that we didn’t put you and Dave to sleep at the conference. In terms of integration with panels, we are indeed in discussions with panel manufacturers, but the reality is that the main driver for these discussions is really to streamline sales and marketing, not for ease of installation. The installation of our micro-inverters is actually super easy. The units install on the existing racking used for the panels, and take only minutes (or seconds, once you’ve done a few) to install. We encourage everyone to view our installation video to see what we mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPXsN_gFz8. As for the plans for additional products, we are working on broadening our compatibility with a wider range of solar modules. I can’t give any specifics or dates just yet, but our website has a list of modules we’re compatible with and we’ll add to it as we expand our compatibility. Again, thanks for the interest and kind words.
Leesa Lee
Director of Marketing, Enphase Energy
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Cool idea. It could also eliminate the need for circuit interrupters (fuses) on the roof.
I tried the video link and got this error: “The URL contained a malformed video ID.” Poking around, I found this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPXsN_gFz8 Which is the same, except it does not have the dot at the end messing up the URL.
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How does the cost compare to traditional inverters? Obviously on an individual basis they would be cheaper. Is there a point where an installation gets large enough that the traditional inverter is the cheaper way to go? Not debating value at the moment, just upfront cost.
Hi Patrick,
Good question. For large installations, it could be sensible to include a mix of conventional string inverters as well as microinverters to bring the cost down. If you own a business and are considering this, give me a buzz.
I’m building my own solar panels, will your micro inverters work with any panels or do I have to make a specific watt panel, can they be used with a battery storage bank for when there is no sunlight?
Inverters have always been the weakest link in the system. In terms of reliability, operating temperatures and temperature cycling play major roles to life. With these micro inverters, they are installed in the worst possible area being on the roof behind the modules. I do like the idea of the micro inverters as the scalability is ideal but can’t support them until they have a chance to prove the reliability.
More Points:
1: They have only been on the market for a little more than a year- no track record in the field.
2: The potential for 1 problem ( 1 inverter) vs as many problems as there are panels on a roof.
3: If a microinverter panel is installed in a non-optimal location because it can tolerate shading, why install it at all if it doesn’t have a chance at working efficiently to begin with.
4: Degredation from heat and cold exposure.
5: Here’s a big one: I an inverter goes bad, you have to take a panel off the roof. What if multiple inverters go bad in intervals. The installer would have to come back all the time to replace them as they go. Who pays for this service? If it’s after the 15 year warranty period, the customer will have to pay the installer to get up on the roof every time an inverter goes bad. You can replace a single inverter in less than an hour.
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I am looking for microinverter, other than Enphase, which model or brand name you would recommend me to find out more about it?
Hi Ken,
I’m really only familiar with Enphase, and just from knowing about their initial reliability studies and engineering team brought over from the cell tower industry, I don’t believe you should be looking anywhere else.
- Dan
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