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	<title>Comments on: New York Solar Power Rebates, Tax Credits, and Incentives</title>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34; Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, Steve. Essentially, for all those afraid of clicking downloads, the incentives have been chopped to $1.75/watt ($1750/kW) for residential to a maximum of 5kW. For commercial, it&#039;s also $1750/kW but up to a 50kW system. Also, in both cases, you can&#039;t get more than 50% of the installed cost covered by the rebate, but don&#039;t forget you&#039;ll also be getting the 30% Federal Tax Credit, so this is still a great deal. Thanks, NY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Steve. Essentially, for all those afraid of clicking downloads, the incentives have been chopped to $1.75/watt ($1750/kW) for residential to a maximum of 5kW. For commercial, it&#8217;s also $1750/kW but up to a 50kW system. Also, in both cases, you can&#8217;t get more than 50% of the installed cost covered by the rebate, but don&#8217;t forget you&#8217;ll also be getting the 30% Federal Tax Credit, so this is still a great deal. Thanks, NY!</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=c122744f4a1656705bc8e350f271801d&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/6cc4a962f00595c.png" alt="Steve Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYSERDA reduced their incentives again on 1/11/2010. Here is a link to the new incentives: http://www.powernaturally.org/publications/SummaryofRevisions101309.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYSERDA reduced their incentives again on 1/11/2010. Here is a link to the new incentives: <a href="http://www.powernaturally.org/publications/SummaryofRevisions101309.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.powernaturally.org/publications/SummaryofRevisions101309.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34; Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34;</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/new-york/comment-page-1/#comment-1298</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

$10 sounds high for a typical system, but it sounds like you&#039;re doing this in a more customized way than typical. You also need racking, which is extra, and if you&#039;re using as an awning, you&#039;re probably paying extra for that hardware. Also don&#039;t know about any other electrical upgrades needs you might have, which can add to the cost. So.... I would get 2 or 3 quotes to be sure.

If it were a normal, typical roof top system, without any unusual extras, it should be around $7.50/watt or $7,500/kilowatt, installed. New York is also not as competitive as other states, where it might be even less. But again, it sounds like you&#039;ve got extras, so... might be fair. Best to get another quote and compare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>$10 sounds high for a typical system, but it sounds like you&#8217;re doing this in a more customized way than typical. You also need racking, which is extra, and if you&#8217;re using as an awning, you&#8217;re probably paying extra for that hardware. Also don&#8217;t know about any other electrical upgrades needs you might have, which can add to the cost. So&#8230;. I would get 2 or 3 quotes to be sure.</p>
<p>If it were a normal, typical roof top system, without any unusual extras, it should be around $7.50/watt or $7,500/kilowatt, installed. New York is also not as competitive as other states, where it might be even less. But again, it sounds like you&#8217;ve got extras, so&#8230; might be fair. Best to get another quote and compare.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ffcc4abc4957d9b8d93abfd91e2292c3&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/afd2d902b9b9c5d.png" alt="tim Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a Quote for a Solar PV system with a flat roof installation of amphorous tubes and crystal PV as an awning on a balcony for approximately 10 per kwt
is this a fair price in todays market.
3 story building, flat roof, third floor balcony for the solar awning.
Net metered system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a Quote for a Solar PV system with a flat roof installation of amphorous tubes and crystal PV as an awning on a balcony for approximately 10 per kwt<br />
is this a fair price in todays market.<br />
3 story building, flat roof, third floor balcony for the solar awning.<br />
Net metered system.</p>
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		<title>By: PACE yourself for Solar, New Yorkers!</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/new-york/comment-page-1/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>PACE yourself for Solar, New Yorkers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: PACE PASSES BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE! Thanks so much for your help in bringing the potential for no-brainer financing to the State of New York! You rock for solar, New York! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: PACE PASSES BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE! Thanks so much for your help in bringing the potential for no-brainer financing to the State of New York! You rock for solar, New York! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Utilities Slash Solar Incentive Programs - Green Inc. Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/new-york/comment-page-1/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Utilities Slash Solar Incentive Programs - Green Inc. Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its incentive by 50 cents per watt in October. According to Tor Valenza, a Green Inc. reader who blogs about solar, that amounts to a net reduction of roughly $1,750 for a five-kilowatt system, depending on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its incentive by 50 cents per watt in October. According to Tor Valenza, a Green Inc. reader who blogs about solar, that amounts to a net reduction of roughly $1,750 for a five-kilowatt system, depending on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Solar Trick or Treat? The Scary Thing About NY Solar Rebates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solar Trick or Treat? The Scary Thing About NY Solar Rebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by 10/13/09, you&#8217;ve just lost a couple of thousand dollars in NY solar rebate money. The full explanation is on our updated New York page, but the bottom line is that Solar just got a little more expensive.  Want to hear another scary [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by 10/13/09, you&#8217;ve just lost a couple of thousand dollars in NY solar rebate money. The full explanation is on our updated New York page, but the bottom line is that Solar just got a little more expensive.  Want to hear another scary [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. 'Solar Fred' Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred"</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the difference, Paul. First of all, your utility and their rate plans matter. I wrote the above example for Brooklyn, originally, but I realized that doesn&#039;t apply to most of the state. Just NYC, because of a special tax abatement. This latest estimate is for Westchester (updated 10/21/09).

Also, most calculator parameters are set to a &quot;Default&quot; per watt charge and other defaults. These are usually way behind the times or are too conservative. Based on our sources, we try to give  you a competitively priced example that&#039;s in the middle, but it&#039;s always lower than the default (higher) price.

Of course this default changes all the time. I actually wrote the NY post BASED on the NY calculator. The difference is that I changed the cost parameter to $7.50/watt (7500/kilowatt.)  What you save per year is going to also be based on what you input as the your electric rate, as well as what you anticipate the rate rising over the next few years. Taxable income and marital status also affect these figures.

This is one reason why I don&#039;t like these public calculators. You really have to know how to use them and have the right info to use them. We do our best to keep up to date as professionals, so we&#039;re better than others. The other problem, as I said earlier, is that the rates change...but the software isn&#039;t updated to reflect that.

In any case, I just redid my calculations using the parameters that I believe I used and I was off. I also had to update because the new rebate rates just went into effect. This may also be the difference, but I swear I didn&#039;t pick that earlier number out of my solar butt. I just input another parameter, and I don&#039;t remember what that is...or the NY state rate software was updated and is now giving a more conservative figure.

I&#039;m thinking the latter because we really, REALLY try to be transparent and honest on SolarPowerRocks. In all of our posts, we simplify things, yes, so that you can understand it, but we are always honest with our figures.

As always, if you want to check our figures, get a few quotes from one of our partner installers. Bottom line, we&#039;re human and we make mistakes or are outdated sometimes, but we&#039;re always transparent and if we make a mistake, we&#039;ll always cop to it and tell our readers. If we were trying to hide something, we wouldn&#039;t have published your comment and I wouldn&#039;t have spent the last hour updating the post. The delete button is so much easier, but that&#039;s not how do things here at SPR.

Thanks for the question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the difference, Paul. First of all, your utility and their rate plans matter. I wrote the above example for Brooklyn, originally, but I realized that doesn&#8217;t apply to most of the state. Just NYC, because of a special tax abatement. This latest estimate is for Westchester (updated 10/21/09).</p>
<p>Also, most calculator parameters are set to a &#8220;Default&#8221; per watt charge and other defaults. These are usually way behind the times or are too conservative. Based on our sources, we try to give  you a competitively priced example that&#8217;s in the middle, but it&#8217;s always lower than the default (higher) price.</p>
<p>Of course this default changes all the time. I actually wrote the NY post BASED on the NY calculator. The difference is that I changed the cost parameter to $7.50/watt (7500/kilowatt.)  What you save per year is going to also be based on what you input as the your electric rate, as well as what you anticipate the rate rising over the next few years. Taxable income and marital status also affect these figures.</p>
<p>This is one reason why I don&#8217;t like these public calculators. You really have to know how to use them and have the right info to use them. We do our best to keep up to date as professionals, so we&#8217;re better than others. The other problem, as I said earlier, is that the rates change&#8230;but the software isn&#8217;t updated to reflect that.</p>
<p>In any case, I just redid my calculations using the parameters that I believe I used and I was off. I also had to update because the new rebate rates just went into effect. This may also be the difference, but I swear I didn&#8217;t pick that earlier number out of my solar butt. I just input another parameter, and I don&#8217;t remember what that is&#8230;or the NY state rate software was updated and is now giving a more conservative figure.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the latter because we really, REALLY try to be transparent and honest on SolarPowerRocks. In all of our posts, we simplify things, yes, so that you can understand it, but we are always honest with our figures.</p>
<p>As always, if you want to check our figures, get a few quotes from one of our partner installers. Bottom line, we&#8217;re human and we make mistakes or are outdated sometimes, but we&#8217;re always transparent and if we make a mistake, we&#8217;ll always cop to it and tell our readers. If we were trying to hide something, we wouldn&#8217;t have published your comment and I wouldn&#8217;t have spent the last hour updating the post. The delete button is so much easier, but that&#8217;s not how do things here at SPR.</p>
<p>Thanks for the question!</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=7e8121401769e72f28c905f5a9a00e0e&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/95c5ff89b970a13.png" alt="Paul Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do most of the solar calculators out there (NYSERDA&#039;s for one) estimate an annual electricity savings so much lower than yours? Most say the same system (5kW with regular bill of $150 per month) will save only about $300 per year. I&#039;m hoping you are right, but you&#039;re the exception, not the rule. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do most of the solar calculators out there (NYSERDA&#8217;s for one) estimate an annual electricity savings so much lower than yours? Most say the same system (5kW with regular bill of $150 per month) will save only about $300 per year. I&#8217;m hoping you are right, but you&#8217;re the exception, not the rule. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34; Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the misunderstanding, Ron. You&#039;re right, and we&#039;ve fixed it. However, for the example that we gave, it would not have made a difference, as the 25% of net /post rebate cost would still have been over the $5,000 cap. If you have a smaller system than 5kW, however, yes, it would have meant a lower state tax credit.

Thanks for pointing that out. We short hand things here to keep it simple, but that&#039;s one we should have been more specific about. Hope our error didn&#039;t keep  you from going solar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the misunderstanding, Ron. You&#8217;re right, and we&#8217;ve fixed it. However, for the example that we gave, it would not have made a difference, as the 25% of net /post rebate cost would still have been over the $5,000 cap. If you have a smaller system than 5kW, however, yes, it would have meant a lower state tax credit.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out. We short hand things here to keep it simple, but that&#8217;s one we should have been more specific about. Hope our error didn&#8217;t keep  you from going solar.</p>
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