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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=92e1bdb4f306821b4beea6b4c595733d&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/054cb593b5d1780.png" alt="marc Michon Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> marc Michon</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-650</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NICE site
11/22/09 PG&amp;E in step 6 $ 1.10 watt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NICE site<br />
11/22/09 PG&amp;E in step 6 $ 1.10 watt</p>
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		<title>By: C&#8217;mon Solar Industry! We can do it.</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>C&#8217;mon Solar Industry! We can do it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Solar, Marshmallows, and Success</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Solar, Marshmallows, and Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34; Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34;</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34; Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. &#34;Solar Fred&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, Michael. We try to keep things updated here, but we&#039;re keeping track of 50 states plus, DC, so it&#039;s great to have your help, and we hope you find our site useful for your solar career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, Michael. We try to keep things updated here, but we&#8217;re keeping track of 50 states plus, DC, so it&#8217;s great to have your help, and we hope you find our site useful for your solar career.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=9ca4191bcb98b4df59cb1fde4d57841e&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/5aafba22b457faa.png" alt="Michael Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Michael</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-646</link>
		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=9ca4191bcb98b4df59cb1fde4d57841e&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/5aafba22b457faa.png" alt="Michael Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great articles... I plan on reading everything you post on your site.  I&#039;m a new solar sales engineer.

FYI California &quot;steps&quot; have been updated since your last update..

i.e.
PGE Residential 6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great articles&#8230; I plan on reading everything you post on your site.  I&#8217;m a new solar sales engineer.</p>
<p>FYI California &#8220;steps&#8221; have been updated since your last update..</p>
<p>i.e.<br />
PGE Residential 6</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. 'Solar Fred' Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred"</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an email from a reader that wrote to me about some important information for Southern California Edison (SCE) rate customers. Please take note and take action if you can.

__________________________________________

Fred,

I read your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/get-your-solar-net-metering-and-rebates-while-you-can/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent post about net metering&lt;/a&gt; and found it interesting. There is a related matter going on that I thought I would bring to your attention.

I am in SCE service area and am a net metering customer with a nominal 6 kW solar array that I have had for more than 5 yrs. I am on rate sch D-1 which I am sure you are aware of. As of Oct 1, SCE is no longer allowing new applications for this rate schedule. Instead, SCE has introduced a new rate schedule. This is called Tiered time-of-use and has 2 tiers, below 130% of baseline and above 130% of base line. The difference between these 2 tiers is significant with the summer peak Tier II at $0.69/kWh.

I am sure you are aware of the &quot;SmartConnect&quot; program SCE has recently implemented and their desire to install time-of-use capable meters to their 5 mil + customers. A component of this program is the new Tiered time-of-Use Rate Schedule. I was told today by a SCE rep at the Time-of-use customer serv number that the D-1 and D-2 rate schedule customers will be required to change to this tiered schedule after the Smartconnect plan is implemented. For most grid-tied users, I think the new Tiered time-of-use rates will result in significant summer electric bill increases. I have done some research and am surprised that there is not more info on this. Perhaps it is due to the relative limited # of TOU customers.

I have asked SCE reps what will be the option for net metered customers that will be significantly impacted by the summer Tiered TOU schedules. The rep didn&#039;t really have an answer. Another impact the rep related to me is that SCE is proposing a change in the baseline and are reducing the baseline zones. She said the typical baseline would be reduced but she didn&#039;t know to what extent. This could be a &quot;double whammy&quot; for net metering customers when the tiered schedule is implemented.

I have enjoyed your emails and website over the years. I think a posting or article re: the proposed Tiered TOU rates would get the word out. I think a lot of existing Sch D-1 users would find this info of use.

Thanks

Gary Laughlin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an email from a reader that wrote to me about some important information for Southern California Edison (SCE) rate customers. Please take note and take action if you can.</p>
<p>__________________________________________</p>
<p>Fred,</p>
<p>I read your <a href="http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-trends/get-your-solar-net-metering-and-rebates-while-you-can/" rel="nofollow">recent post about net metering</a> and found it interesting. There is a related matter going on that I thought I would bring to your attention.</p>
<p>I am in SCE service area and am a net metering customer with a nominal 6 kW solar array that I have had for more than 5 yrs. I am on rate sch D-1 which I am sure you are aware of. As of Oct 1, SCE is no longer allowing new applications for this rate schedule. Instead, SCE has introduced a new rate schedule. This is called Tiered time-of-use and has 2 tiers, below 130% of baseline and above 130% of base line. The difference between these 2 tiers is significant with the summer peak Tier II at $0.69/kWh.</p>
<p>I am sure you are aware of the &#8220;SmartConnect&#8221; program SCE has recently implemented and their desire to install time-of-use capable meters to their 5 mil + customers. A component of this program is the new Tiered time-of-Use Rate Schedule. I was told today by a SCE rep at the Time-of-use customer serv number that the D-1 and D-2 rate schedule customers will be required to change to this tiered schedule after the Smartconnect plan is implemented. For most grid-tied users, I think the new Tiered time-of-use rates will result in significant summer electric bill increases. I have done some research and am surprised that there is not more info on this. Perhaps it is due to the relative limited # of TOU customers.</p>
<p>I have asked SCE reps what will be the option for net metered customers that will be significantly impacted by the summer Tiered TOU schedules. The rep didn&#8217;t really have an answer. Another impact the rep related to me is that SCE is proposing a change in the baseline and are reducing the baseline zones. She said the typical baseline would be reduced but she didn&#8217;t know to what extent. This could be a &#8220;double whammy&#8221; for net metering customers when the tiered schedule is implemented.</p>
<p>I have enjoyed your emails and website over the years. I think a posting or article re: the proposed Tiered TOU rates would get the word out. I think a lot of existing Sch D-1 users would find this info of use.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Gary Laughlin</p>
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		<title>By: Get Your Solar Net Metering and Rebates While You Can</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Your Solar Net Metering and Rebates While You Can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: California Solar Rebate Page &#8211; Updated</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>California Solar Rebate Page &#8211; Updated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just updated our State of California Solar page to include more current solar pricing trends and rebates as of 9-2-09. This time, in addition to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just updated our State of California Solar page to include more current solar pricing trends and rebates as of 9-2-09. This time, in addition to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. 'Solar Fred' Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred"</title>
		<link>http://solarpowerrocks.com/california/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3af5bce55e71d41ccf30cd866fdf8cf6&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8bafa4b8b3af747.png" alt="Tor a.k.a. 'Solar Fred' Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Tor a.k.a. "Solar Fred"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Bradley,

You&#039;re formula may be right...or not. The truth is that the IRS has not given specific tax guidance yet about whether to take the 30% before the rebate or after. There is also a question of whether the tax credit is counted as &quot;income&quot; and therefore taxable or rather it is simply a reduction in cost, and therefore not taxable.

When the Feds do come out with guidance for 2009 with its new tax forms, the first year that the 30% uncapped tax credit is eligible, we&#039;ll write a post. Meanwhile, you should not trust us for final word, &#039;cause we&#039;re just 3 solar dudes, not tax dudes. Better to confirm these matters with a tax pro. Hopefully, tax software will also incorporate these issues as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Bradley,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re formula may be right&#8230;or not. The truth is that the IRS has not given specific tax guidance yet about whether to take the 30% before the rebate or after. There is also a question of whether the tax credit is counted as &#8220;income&#8221; and therefore taxable or rather it is simply a reduction in cost, and therefore not taxable.</p>
<p>When the Feds do come out with guidance for 2009 with its new tax forms, the first year that the 30% uncapped tax credit is eligible, we&#8217;ll write a post. Meanwhile, you should not trust us for final word, &#8217;cause we&#8217;re just 3 solar dudes, not tax dudes. Better to confirm these matters with a tax pro. Hopefully, tax software will also incorporate these issues as well.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=efef0c868412bb2768020d7bb32d5b74&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/de165f7d18be769.png" alt="Bradley Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=efef0c868412bb2768020d7bb32d5b74&#38;size=25&#38;default=http://solarpowerrocks.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/de165f7d18be769.png" alt="Bradley Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your example, shouldn&#039;t you take the EPBB rebate off the projected total cost before you calculate the 30% Fed Tax credit???  i.e. shouldn&#039;t the Fed Tax rebate be calculated as follows:

6kW system...

$48,000 - ($1.55 x 6000) = $38,7oo

then

$38,700 x 0.3 = $11,610

Final est. price:  $38,700 - 11,610 = $27,090


&quot;...for both equipment and installation is a mid-range estimate of about $8/watt or $48,000, offset by the 30% federal tax credit and the $1.55/watt EPBB rebate. So, subtract the federal tax credit and we’re down to $33,600 ($48,000 * .30 = $14,400 tax credit).

Next, let’s calculate the EPBB rebate at $1.55/watt. Since we’re installing 6000 watts (6kW system) the rebate amounts to $9,300 (6000 * $1.55 = $9,300). This comes as a check directly back to you or your installer who will reduce the cost by this amount. Now, our net initial cost amounts to $24,300.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your example, shouldn&#8217;t you take the EPBB rebate off the projected total cost before you calculate the 30% Fed Tax credit???  i.e. shouldn&#8217;t the Fed Tax rebate be calculated as follows:</p>
<p>6kW system&#8230;</p>
<p>$48,000 &#8211; ($1.55 x 6000) = $38,7oo</p>
<p>then</p>
<p>$38,700 x 0.3 = $11,610</p>
<p>Final est. price:  $38,700 &#8211; 11,610 = $27,090</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;for both equipment and installation is a mid-range estimate of about $8/watt or $48,000, offset by the 30% federal tax credit and the $1.55/watt EPBB rebate. So, subtract the federal tax credit and we’re down to $33,600 ($48,000 * .30 = $14,400 tax credit).</p>
<p>Next, let’s calculate the EPBB rebate at $1.55/watt. Since we’re installing 6000 watts (6kW system) the rebate amounts to $9,300 (6000 * $1.55 = $9,300). This comes as a check directly back to you or your installer who will reduce the cost by this amount. Now, our net initial cost amounts to $24,300.&#8221;</p>
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