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I am a strong proponent of using all options available to reduce utility costs. the one BIG complaint I have with the current rebate / tax structure is that there are more options available to reduce initial out of pocket costs for companies than individuals. The exact size solar system that I install will cost me more out of pocket than a company. there are more homes than businesses. shouldn’t the push to solar or wind power be directed, at the least, equally ? Reducing CO2, reducing stress on the existing grid, etc is the same regardless of where similar solar systems are installed. If you ask me, all new homes in southern CA, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas should come with solar panels on the roof. With government restrictions on new power plant construction, local battles against their construction (NIMBY), power companies should PUT them on any home that agrees to them. Run the house and any and all excess is pushed to the grid for everyone else to use. 8 hours a day I’m at work so little if any electrical device is in use.
What gets me is that the utility companies control the rebates. Sulpher Springs won’t rebate anyone who wants a off-grid system. The lack of net-metering also means that during the day when I’m at work, the majority of the electricity generated by my system will go into the grid, to someone else’s building, and Sulphur Springs will get paid for my electicity that I won’t get credit for.
In the last 3 years I’ve wittnessed the cost of a solar systems for residential use DOUBLE in price! What the heck do you think the reason? We are being ripped off again! Solar companies are gouging the customer and taking all the incentives up front and the customer ends up paying through the nose. I hate these people and I hate the utilities companies. I’ll build my own system and screw you all!
The new net metering law went into effect, and now Sulpher Springs will have to pay for any power that goes back into the grid, as long as you didn’t sign the agreement that went with the rebate on the system. Don’t take the incentive, and you get the net-metering pay.
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[...] issues that need to be addressed before we have a uniform policy. One site for up-to-date info is http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/arizona/. Much of Cochise County obtains its electrical energy from Sulphur Springs Valley Electric [...]
Can you please explain what Tennessee has to offer in regards to incentives for larger commercial solar pv systems.
[...] same could be true if you’re buying solar in Los Angeles, Boulder, Colorado, Philadelphia, and Phoenix, Arizona. The local solar rebates and incentives in these and other cities are a great investment, yet a [...]
Although the current incentives are good (and real money), the payback analysis is flawed (as of 2009). If you are on any of the TOU plans, power you generate is credited to the future purchase of the SAME TIME CLASS of power. That is, power you generate at on-peak times is not applied to off-peak use. APS has only one plan without this gotcha – their “Standard” rate. Also, for every KWh you buy from APS, you pay for “system benefits”, transmission, and delivery charges per KWh but you don’t get paid back for these charges when you put the power back on the grid. You only get credited for the “generation” part of the calculation. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that the power company is in business to make money and they will play numbers games as necessary in order to make what they want from you.
Good info, Richard. Thanks! These are always estimates we do with software, but they do get out of date. The differences here, as you noted, could extend your payback time, depending on your usage, time of usage, and utility. Thanks again for commenting!
We are thinking about building in oracle, az but the electrical utility, BIA San Carlos Irrigation Project, does not allow net metering. I believe the only utility in state after january 1, 2010 to not allow. Anyone with suggestions on how to get SCIP on board?
Lars Pettersen, Peoria, Arizona. Very informative except for SRP caps out at $13,500 where APS goes to 50% up to $75,000 Great webb site!! From American Way Solar, Lars Pettersen
I’m penciling out whether to pay APS the $15k they want to bring power to my site (so I could install a grid-tied system)or to go with an off-grid system. It comes down to whether APS will make good on the $2/watt rebate they advertise for off-grid systems. Have you heard of any difficulties getting this rebate? Thanks.
Brad, We haven’t heard of any issues. But just be sure that you or your installer comply with all of the code requirements and any other regulations. If you put panels up and claim to them that they will generate so much power, be sure that’s accurate and that your angles, wires, and other inefficiencies are taken into account. Don’t try to fudge anything, because there’s a good chance they will audit all of your figures before giving you the rebate with a site visit.
Hope that helps.
I signed a contract for solar panels and paid half in October. Installation was promised in December. Panels were not delivered, so installation is delayed until well into 2010. I want to claim the tax credits for 2009–can I?
Paul,
I’d love to tell you one way or another, but this is beyond our expertise. Please consult with a tax person. Sorry.
If I were a residential solar panel installer , which top three state should I be targeting ?
Check out our State by State report card and go for the top. Although that data’s a little old now, much still applies.
Just to give an update, the excellent incentives by the larger utilities have been severely slashed which is bad news for we installers trying to sell solar. APS has gone from $3/watt up to 50% of the system down to $2.15/watt which was supposed to last for awhile, however, even though this was news was just released we already received an email from APS stating that with all of the apps put on hold while the corporation commission ruled on its request to lower its incentive, the 3 megawatts set aside for that $2.15/watt have already been used up and so now they are at $1.95/watt for any future systems. SRP’s i thought was great to, until I realized that they have a cap of $13,500, which makes their true rebate average about $1.75/watt or so depending on systems size. So AZ is not rocking near as hard as it did. Just thought you would like the update.
We are planning to install a Solar-Wind Off-Grid system in the near future. Location: Navajo County, near Holbrook.
I figure my out of pocket will be $25k (Plug & Play).
We are Canadian.
Are we exempt from Arizona / USA Solar/Wind Rebates, or are we able to receive these Rebates as well?
We are planning on a permanent move to the state, eventually becomming Nationalized Citizens.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Michael,
You are eligible to receive an Off-Grid rebate as long as you are a current subscriber to the local Utility Company. Navajo County, is that APS? Are you currently tied to the grid? You can start by contacting your utility company. If you are not a current rate-payer then I would find out who your provider would be and contact them. Sorry I couldn’t be much help. Feel free to check out http://www.dsireusa.org for all rebate information.
I bought a 5000 Watt solar sytem for my house in Prescott Valley. It was turned on 9/10/2010 and has generated some power evry single day even in heavy rain and snow. From Sept thru Dec it has generated more power per month than used from APS. My electic bills for those months was the minimum of $9.50. I just recieved by net metering results from APS which shows 830KWh credit for the year and a $51 credit to my account for only 3.5 months (the worst 3 months for solar). Bottom line, APS will be paying me!
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