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In my last post, I told you about the basic info in the newSunRun leasing program, available only in Los Angeles and Arizona for now. In this post, I’ll go through the example of an average sized 5KW system.
First I’ll bet you’re asking, “Solar Fred, what’s an average 5KW DC system and what does it mean to me and my house?” It actually may mean nothing for your house. Every house is different and uses a different amount of power.
In this example, it means that a SunRun installer has gone to your example home in Los Angeles and seen 12 months of my LADWP electric bills. So they know an average of what your home uses year round. They’ve checked out your roof and the shading. Then they asked how much of your regular utility bill you’d like to replace with solar power. You’re a big solar advocate and you want to save money too, so you say to make your home 95% solar, 5% coal fired from the LADWP utility.
They run the numbers, and voila, a they recommend a 5KW system with 25 panels and the inverter. And what does this example cost? Let’s see:
SolarFred Note#1: The example above may already be out of date. I’ve just learned that LADWP is going from flat rates to tiered rates in July 2009. That will make utility rates more expensive and buying solar have a faster payback. So, I’m not sure that this example takes those rates into account.
SolarFred Note#2: Remember that you will not directly benefit from any Federal, state or local solar subsidies or the value of solar renewable energy credits (SRECS). SunRun says it works a large portion of these numbers into their calculations. That could be a great benefit to people who pay little in income taxes every April 15th.
SolarFred Note#3: Instead of $500 down, you may pay $0 down in some Arizona utilities for systems over 4KW. That would include this 5KW example above. Also, Arizona rates are different from LADWP, so your savings will be different than this LADWP example.
Of course, your system is going to vary by your home’s energy usage and many other factors. This is only an example.
Like any solar leasing or solar PPA program, you’re going to do better financially if you buy the system through a home equity loan. Think about a car lease versus a car loan. Same concept. You’re always better off financially buying, but the payments are going to be higher than the lower lease payment, though long term, you do get a greater return on your investment. So, are you a buyer or a leaser? Overall, the SunRun lease and the SunRun PPA are a good deal if you want:
We’re still getting through reviewing the various solar leases and solar PPAs in around the U.S. Today, we’re returning to SunRun and their other solar financing program, a Solar Lease.
SunRun is mainly known for its Solar PPAs, but in some states or utility areas, they have a Solar Lease model because of complex utility agreements and/or state laws. Here are the basic need-to-knows.
In the next post, we’ll go over a SunRun solar lease example for an average size 5kw DC system.
In my next post, I’ll lay out an example of the SunRun LADWP lease for Los Angeles and Arizona.

In my last post about SunRun, we talked about the basic outline of the SunRun solar PPA. In this post, we’re going to go through an example of an average system in Southern California Edison (SCE) utility with tiered rates and net metering. The example would be similar in other SunRun territories, but not Arizona and Los Angeles, which are leases.
In this example:
Financials:
SunRun notes that the above sample quote is for a home with good solar potential. Check my previous post about gauging whether your home is right for solar.
In my next post, I’ll talk about the new Los Angeles and Arizona lease model and give an example.
Continuing on our look at residential solar PPAs (power purchase agreements) and solar leases, let’s check out the biggest player in the residential PPA market, SunRun.
First, the basics:
In my next post, I’ll give an example of an average sized 5KW DC (4.23 KW AC System) in Southern California for SunRun’s PPA. So, the above model would apply to most of California and Massachusetts utilities, but not to Arizona and Los Angeles.
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When you subsidize the free market, things sometimes get weird. For example, combine a change in Spain’s (and a few other countries’) solar subsidies, a US-wide absence of corporate tax hunger, and a massive spike in solar module production, and now you’ve got plummeting solar panel prices. I’m talking like… half, compared to a year ago. I remember toward December 2008 my old company had to throw away a couple of giant deals just because we couldn’t get our hands on the modules we needed. Today there is cutthroat pricing from solar panel manufacturers trying to move inventory.
Big commercial solar deals in the US usually rely on tax equity financing. That means if businesses purchase systems themselves, they need to be turning tidy profits to be able to take advantage of the tax credits. Therefore, there aren’t a lot of those deals being sold now. Silicon production has ramped way up in the last few years, as has the number of companies producing solar modules from the silicon, as well as the manufacturing throughput of those companies. All this results in is a lot of supply coupled with diminished global demand, meaning you’ve got lower price. Since the market is subsidized, some common market trends are amplified and expedited.
AND THAT’S JUST INTERNATIONALLY. Break it down by country, then state or province, then to city, and even to neighborhood, and you have markedly different solar energy markets.
Not the best subsidies for photovoltaics, but Hawaiian power is EXPENSIVE! Think about it, Hawaii has to boat in all the fossil fuels to their island, making the cost per kWh of electricity higher than just about anywhere. Couple that with a lot of sun and you’ve probably got the first market to reach grid parity. A hot market here would have greater changes than other places since most of Hawaiian power is derived from pretty dirty fossil fuels. Hawaii is working hard to change this, and I expect the solar market to take off.
Here you have pretty crappy subsidies, a population that assumes solar doesn’t make sense because it’s too cloudy and rainy (not true), and pretty cheap power (over 50% of which is already clean hydro power). What you end up with is no one being able to sell solar panels.
LA is a great solar market. The Palm Desert market is ridiculously great. Here you have a lot of homeowners who have been there a long time, and thus still have home equity. They also have magnificently large power bills and air conditioning. Add to that SCE’s tiered rate structure (the more you use, the more it costs), and selling solar energy is like shooting fish in a barrel. The only negative (which is greatly outweighed by the positives), is that heat negatively affects the voltage of crystalline silicon products. As a result, I bet you’ll see some of the first residential thin-film installs going up around places like this (even though it doesn’t make sense for everyone – thin film takes more space and a lot of people in Palm Desert are already maxing out their roof real estate).
New Orleans has the best residential subsidy in the nation. 50% Refundable state tax credit coupled the 30% Federal tax credit, means your systems are 80% off. The thing that makes this an interesting market is that the subsidy is only a year old, which means solar never made sense before. So you have a very small number of people who can install, and their experience is new. Politics are moving very quickly as well, and the new tax credits will probably soon be transferrable, allowing for both commercial installations as well as third party ownership options (like Solar PPA’s or Solar Leases).
A recent pilot of California’s AB811 style municipal financing in Boulder was hugely successful, but small. The rebate from the utility there, Xcel Energy, dropped a dollar a watt, and Colorado energy is relatively inexpensive. So while the subsidy is making solar energy for homes is possible, it’s just not a slam dunk. Colorado also has lots of sun and a nice, cool, climate – ideal for solar power. As a result of the recent success of the subsidy that came online, I think, around late 05 early 06, lots of people jumped into the market with lots of success. Lately, with the pilot in Boulder complete, Xcel dropping their rebate, and a lot of the low-hanging fruit of customer base already absorbed, many installers are desperately clutching to low price as a solution for generating business to get themselves out of this economic downturn. I expect a consolidation in this market and for some to shake out, but that it will remain a robust solar market in the long run. One block off the Grid is kicking off a solar energy group purchase program for solar energy in Denver in a few weeks.
Solar curious people: If you haven’t done so yet, please read this post on my sister blog site and pass it on. And now on with my regular blog….
For those who follow this blog, they know I love to point them to DSIRE.org, a non-profit database of all of the solar incentives in each state. Another hint that will indicate if solar is an affordable option in your state is by the State’s Renewable Portfolio Standard.
This is a great intro to solar basics. It explains how solar works and all of the components in a few minutes. Graphics are very clear.
Notice the “thin film” roofing tiles that look like regular tiles. Solar doesn’t have to be panels (but it’s less expensive that way). A picture is worth a thousand words and moving pictures are worth at least 10,000 words, give or take. Enjoy.
SolarFredNews: I’m officially a Tweeter. I shall tweet about solar and how to afford it at http://twitter.com/SolarFred.
Please follow me, tweet me, @me, #me, and tender your solar insights there. In return, I shall tweet my solar insights to you in 140 characters or less. I’d go longer, but them’s the twitter rules.
If I can’t put solar insights into 140 words, at the very least, I’ll alert you about new Solar Fred insights being posted here at the old blog, which is so 2004, I know. But it works.
SunRun has done what no other Solar Lease or Solar PPA company has done before. They have made an agreement with my home town utility, the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP), and according to SunRun, they have already sold their first low money down solar lease in the city.
I’ll get more into the details of the SunRun lease and PPA models in the next few posts. This post is a shout out to the LADWP to say thank you! …and also, please make more deals with other third party solar finance people.
Third party solar finance companies, such as the ones I’ve listed in another post, help to make solar affordable because they lower the upfront costs for both home owners and especially for businesses and government entities. I’m quite frankly perplexed as to why the LADWP has been blocking very experienced, qualified NABCEP solar installers from implementing their various financing programs. Many cities allow these companies to do the same solar installations, and the LADWP should as well. L.A. could have so many huge solar installations on schools and other businesses right now. Furthermore, we are losing good solar jobs in our struggling Los Angeles economy–not to mention the environmental loss. I hope this new agreement is a sign that the LADWP is beginning to remove any obstacles that other cities don’t have.
In the mean time, the SunRun Solar Lease is open for business in Los Angeles! I’ll be getting into more details over the next few posts, but overall, I think it’s a great, affordable, low money down program.
Dear Solar Fred,
What’s the difference between a Solar Lease and Solar PPA?
Confused in Cali
Dear Cali,
You’re right to to be confused because they’re similar…yet very different. I outlined each option and others in my Cash Poor Series of posts, so you can see an outline of each program there.
Here are the basics:
Now for a Lease:
So, bottom line:
While both these options are good for low cost financing, in the long term, you’re better off financially using a home equity loan or an energy efficiency mortgage to buy your panels. There are also a growing number of cities that will finance your solar through a tax assessment, known as PACE Financing (Property Assessed Clean Energy.)
Either way, you have nothing to lose by getting a quote from these various companies and comparing the financial pros and cons. Some companies can give you both options, so you can compare solar leasing/solar ppa with purchasing.
A state that has passed renewable portfolio standards (RPS) mandates the State to generate a certain percentage of their energy from renewable energy. In order to meet these goals, many legislators and their utilities will pass solar incentives. If you live in one of these states below, you’re more likely to find state incentives that will help you go solar.
Also, below, there is another list of states that currently have no RPS goals, which means… there will probably be little if any solar subsidies.
STATE STANDARD BY YEAR
States without RPS or voluntary goals:
*Colorado has set 20 percent goal for investor-owned utilities by 2020 and 10 percent for municipal and cooperative utilities by 2020.
**Maine set 30 percent by 2000 and beginning 2008 to increase renewable power by 1 percent annually.
***Investor-owned utility Xcel is to have 30 percent renewables by 2020 in Minnesota.
****Ohio can reach its goal by including some energy efficiency programs and counting third-generation nuclear power plants.
*****Texas has called for increase of 5,000 MW over the 1999 renewable generation level by 2015. That is about 5 percent of the state’s power generation.
Source: North Carolina State University, and the Pew Center, as reported by Reuters.